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When Being with Others May Do More Harm Than Good

This is the second blog in the Life After Loss Sept 2017 blog series:

 Being Alone vs Loneliness – When Being Around Others May Do More Harm Than Good


“I used to think that the worst thing in life was to end up alone. It’s not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel alone.”

– Robin Williams

Ahhh…loneliness. Not the most cheery of subjects to blog about. But then again, stumbling forward with life after a significant loss is not usually the cheeriest of times.

And to be perfectly honest, I may not be the best person to be writing about loneliness in the wake of loss because…well, after my husband, John’s, death I didn’t really experience what I would call loneliness.

At least, not when I was alone.

Yes, I missed him terribly and I was an emotional and psychological basket case for months. But when it came to feeling “lonely,” I figured something out about myself pretty quickly: more often than not, I felt better (relatively-speaking) when I was alone – with just my dog and my thoughts – than I did when I was with other people…especially large groups of people.

Now, there were exceptions to this, of course. I was extremely blessed to have several key people who I could talk to…and believe me, I did. They became the life preservers that, slowly but surely, pulled me from the depths of grief to the shore of a new life. For even though I was alone – I was a widow with no children and I lived alone – I could never have navigated my way through the grief without the help of others.

But here’s the thing: as the Robin Williams quote suggests, my loneliest moments in the weeks and months (and who’s kidding who, years) following John’s death occurred when I was with people who I didn’t feel comfortable talking to about John – or about what I was experiencing, trying to come to terms with his death.

Those were the times I felt a horrific loneliness…like I was standing on one side of the Grand Canyon and that person (or group of people) was on the other side – and John was somewhere in the middle, at the bottom of the Colorado River flowing away from me as fast as could be.

Yes, I had already lost him. But when people began to stop talking about him (which inevitably happens but boy does it hurt), it felt as if he was really gone…not just the man but the memory, too.

Life goes on – we all get that. But when a loss has shattered the very core of our being, we need time to process that loss and begin to heal…and to do that, we need to do everything in our power to surround ourselves with the right people and situations.

Not the opposite.

Be careful about saying yes to social events out of obligation

To illustrate the importance of staying clear of situations that may not be the best fit for our…current emotional state, this passage from A Widow’s Awakening happened two months after John’s (“Sam”) death:

Tonight is the annual Christmas party for Sam’s team and Tom invited Nick, Angela and me. I said yes, thinking it might be nice to carry on the tradition – and because I should go. For I am The Cheerful Widow whose job it is to make everyone else feel better by pretending I’m A-OK. In public, I’m the smiling little trooper who asks lots of cute questions. Back home, I’m weaving the answers into a dangerous rope into which my own neck might fit quite nicely.

At the Christmas party, I soon realize that being the widow of a fallen officer watching her dead husband’s teammates trying to party is a like a drug addict in rehab, watching other addicts shoot up. I’m not emotionally equipped to observe the reality that life is going on without Sam. So off to the buffet I waddle.

With a heaping plate of food in one hand and a beer in the other, I find a seat in the living room and a woman I’ve never seen before sits beside me.

“And who are you?” she asks.

“Ummm . . . my husband was the police officer who just passed away.”

“Oh now, which one was that?” she says loudly, waving her wineglass. “There’s been so many lately, I get them all mixed up!”

Ouch. I could have punched her for making such a callous remark. In hindsight, I kinda wish I did. But for the purpose of this blog ? my point is this: when you are in an extremely vulnerable state, you have to be very careful about the situations you sign up for and the people you surround yourself with.

In this next excerpt from A Widow’s Awakening, two more weeks have passed (I am “Adri”):

For American Thanksgiving, I order Chinese food from our favourite restaurant and watch our favourite Thanksgiving movie, Planes, Trains and Automobiles. Since I didn’t watch it at Canadian Thanksgiving, I figure watching it now would be acceptable to Sam – in our new relationship as red light and wife.

What I don’t remember about the film is that the main character is a widower who carts around a photo of his dead wife. At one point, he’s sitting in his car during a snowstorm chatting away to her. Sitting on Sam’s perch, surrounded by pictures of him, I can certainly relate. The dead are often better companions than the living. I’m far happier staying at home alone, talking to the walls than I am venturing out into the world and hearing what the mortals have to tell me. For as the two-month marker of Sam’s death approaches, I’m noticing a definite shift in the clichés coming my way.

‘You’re young, dear,’ is a popular one from the over-fifty crowd.

‘I’m so sorry,’ is being replaced by an oddly enthusiastic, ‘Well, at least you didn’t have children!’

That’s right, you morons: now I don’t have a husband OR a child.

And my all-time favorite, occurring with alarming frequency and frightening conviction, is: ‘Losing a spouse isn’t as bad as losing a child.’

‘GRIEF IS NOT A PISSING MATCH!’ I scream at the water fountain when I get back home again.

Then there are the dozens of people who take my hand and softly confide, “Adri, I just want you to know that your loss has really made me appreciate what I have.”

I’m so pleased my nightmare could be of assistance to you. Not.

In other words, I finally figured out that spending time with strangers – or with familiars who didn’t know what to say – was doing more harm than good. Although the ridiculous comments made by others were not intentionally cruel or rude, they certainly served to stoke the fire within…and believe me, my fire did NOT need more stoking! I was doing a damn fine job all on my own ☹

Loneliness leads to isolation

And the more isolated we feel, the more isolated we become – and then the more treacherous our path becomes because we are far more prone to turn to unhealthy coping mechanisms, such as substance abuse or dangerous thoughts, to help bridge the gap between us and…everything else. But unhealthy coping mechanisms won’t bridge the gap – they only widen it. More on that in a future blog.

Choose Wisely Who You Surround Yourself With

To find a person who can truly listen is a tremendous gift. It’s also one of the trickiest things to find because a good listener is a rare gem indeed.

If you have recently experienced a major loss of some sort in your life, when it comes to loneliness, my advice is this: be VERY careful who you spend time with. Choose wisely.

And how do you know if you have chosen well? By how you feel when you part ways. If you feel better, you’ve got a keeper. If you feel worse, you can throw that one back.  

“Loneliness is that prominent, gaping hole in your life that just can’t seem to be filled regardless of what you do…But being alone is a different situation completely. Being alone is a state of being; loneliness is a state of mind.”

– Andrea Cope, Thought Catalogue


Animated Empathy Video Hits Mark

If you haven’t seen the short (3-min) animated Brené Brown video about the difference between empathy and sympathy, I highly recommend viewing it. It’s brilliant! It illustrates the danger of using the words, “At least…” when supporting someone going through a difficult time.

You can view it here on You Tube.

Maryanne Pope is the author of A Widow’s Awakening, the playwright of Saviour and the screenwriter of God’s Country. Maryanne is CEO of Pink Gazelle Productions and Chair of the John Petropoulos Memorial Fund. If you would like to receive her regular weekly blog, please sign up here. As a thank you, you’ll receive a short but saucy e-book entitled, Dive into this Chicago Deep Dish – Ten Bite-Sized Steps for a Yummier Slice of Life


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6 thoughts on “When Being with Others May Do More Harm Than Good”

  1. Your wisdom,
    And how do you know if you have chosen well? By how you feel when you part ways. If you feel better, you’ve got a keeper. If you feel worse, you can throw that one back.

    Is spot on and so helpful! Thank you!! Because I have learned many insights from, regrettably my own personal experience with great loss but also reading and research on the topic. And what usually is missing, is how do you know when the particular knowledge applies to you or how can you make a decision based on that new knowledge or insight, in your own situation. Great blog!
    I always feel better when I talk to you so I guess you’re a keeper for sure! Now dear Pope, make sure you take your own advice! Ha!

  2. Maryann,
    Again, your writing spoke to me, and I love talking about Johnny and all the adventures we had. You are always in my thoughts. Sorry about the things people do and say.

    My Dad died of Alzheimer’s and old age, but my mom too has gone down the path of loneliness leading to isolation and choosing unhealthy activities that keep me on my toes. I need to watch it. I try to be there and I do talk about my Dad growing up, but I also talk about our journey with Alzheimer’s. It’s hard to see her go through this, but it’s hard to pull her out.

    Great article and so many real emotions and realities that peoole deal with after a loss of a loved one. Take Care.
    Love Joyce

  3. Hi Joyce…wonderful to hear from you! I can’t believe we are nearly through September already!! Thank you for your comments on this blog about loneliness. I know it is something that many people experience and it sure sounds like your Mom is experiencing that right now. I am glad you are there for her and able to keep a close eye on her less-than-healthy coping mechanisms. I so enjoyed meeting her a couple of summers ago so please say hi for me.

    Take care and have a good weekend!

  4. Hi Jac! I love being a keeper 🙂 and you sure are a keeper, too! As with many things in life, I am finding that the solution to most problems usually is quite SIMPLE – i.e. if you don’t feel better after spending time with someone, stop spending time with them – but in practice, it is not always EASY!

    Glad you liked this blog. I found it a tough one to write…I really worked at it. And even after I was done, I found myself continuing to think about the loneliness topice. Sometimes I feel like an odd cat because loneliness isn’t something I experience too often when I am alone. But maybe it’s all the imaginary characters in my head that help keep me company 🙂

    Take care and enjoy the rest of your weekend!

  5. Interesting that you should say that loneliness isn’t something that you experience too often when you’re alone… My mom just said a very similar thing yesterday! She said: I never really get bored, or lonely. And this is from a lady who is now a widow 7+ years and recently very immobilized in her home due to illness. But loneliness is not one of her worries at the moment. She enjoys her alone time, in fact:) She’s a highly creative woman and enjoys time to think that way.
    I’m wondering if so much of being alone and how we like it, or accept it, or enjoy it, is really due to our personalities, and our approach to life.
    Great blog on being alone versus loneliness – it really gets me thinking…

  6. Hi Sarah! Yes…I do think that part of feeling loneliness – or not – has to do with our personalities and our approach to life. That is interesting that your Mom made that very same comment just the other day!

    My Mom was similar to yours, it sounds like. She was a very social person but loved spending time on her own…she was happy as a clam listening to the radio and reading the newspaper and doing all the things she loved to do. She also loved to call us kids and yak on the phone 🙂 but she certainly didn’t mind being on her own for the majority of the time. She was divorced at 49 and never remarried so she was certainly used to it. I can relate!

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